Newly Enlightened - 4 days ago
Thank you Lloydy Boy lol
slimboyfat - 3 days ago
Was the thread bumped for a particlar reason,
'News and the Law of Unintended Consequences'
ohiocowboy has just posted this information on the two other threads dealing with the sudden collapse of the unthank cases.. i don't know steven unthank, but i just want to thank him from the bottom of my heart for having the courage against overwhelming odds to try and bring the watch tower society to justice over their deplorable neglect when it comes to protecting children from abuse and molestation.. steven is a man of justice and integrity who i deeply admire.
his actions will never be forgotten, and i only hope he can find it within himself to continue his work in whatever avenue may become available in the future.. they have won this battle, but they can never win the war.. .
cedars.
Newly Enlightened - 4 days ago
Thank you Lloydy Boy lol
slimboyfat - 3 days ago
Was the thread bumped for a particlar reason,
'News and the Law of Unintended Consequences'
"misinformation, disinformation, science, this antiscience, uh conspiracy theory, these are propaganda terms.".
'don't use them' he says.
@ 19:33. https://youtu.be/miauulndllq?t=1173.
'When we reach 2032, it will be also about 13 years from the entire conspiracy that began in 2019 to overthrow the United States as we have known it.'
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/the-collapse-of-a-nation-takes-13-years/
"misinformation, disinformation, science, this antiscience, uh conspiracy theory, these are propaganda terms.".
'don't use them' he says.
@ 19:33. https://youtu.be/miauulndllq?t=1173.
https://www.un.org/en/civil-society/watchtowerletter.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/76847/best-wts-un.
"misinformation, disinformation, science, this antiscience, uh conspiracy theory, these are propaganda terms.".
'don't use them' he says.
@ 19:33. https://youtu.be/miauulndllq?t=1173.
Muslim hijackers were not at the controls on 9/11, says
https://rumble.com/v4ggcf6-biden-administration-documented-covering-up-911-evidence.html
i'm trying to find the video of the 911 story where it shows the twin towers up close showing demolition charges going off one by one as an indication that the whole thing may have been a set up.
it was posted earlier this year but am unable to locate the post.
anyone have a link to that vid?
I have seen plenty of video of the collapse...
I've never seen anything that even resembled demolition charges.
Thermite?
for those of you who are unfamiliar with the story, which is ten years old now.
the freeman brothers of allentown pennsylvania lashed out against their strict upbringing by killing their loyal jw parents and even their younger brother.. the story made national headlines because these two had tattoos on their foreheads.
"berzerker" and "sieg heil.".
for those of you who are unfamiliar with the story, which is ten years old now.
the freeman brothers of allentown pennsylvania lashed out against their strict upbringing by killing their loyal jw parents and even their younger brother.. the story made national headlines because these two had tattoos on their foreheads.
"berzerker" and "sieg heil.".
Psychiatrist Susan Rushing says repeated sexual abuse that went untreated was detrimental to Bryan Freeman's development.
According to records shared in court, in 1992, Brenda Freeman told a rehab counselor the abuse happened when Bryan was 6 years old, and that Dennis Freeman did not want to pursue treatment.
for those of you who are unfamiliar with the story, which is ten years old now.
the freeman brothers of allentown pennsylvania lashed out against their strict upbringing by killing their loyal jw parents and even their younger brother.. the story made national headlines because these two had tattoos on their foreheads.
"berzerker" and "sieg heil.".
Testimony has wrapped in the re-sentencing hearing for two brothers who have been in prison for 29 years for the killing of their parents and younger brother.
All week, attorneys for Bryan and David Freeman have presented evidence as to why the brothers should get a reduced sentence with the possibility of release.
The Lehigh District Attorney's office has also provided evidence to try to keep the Freeman brothers behind bars.
Those witnesses include mental health experts, law enforcement officials, members of the Jehovah's Witness faith, correctional officials, friends of the Freemans, and some of their family members.
The Freemans' aunt Valerie, who found the bodies of Dennis, Brenda, and 11-year-old Erik Freeman on February 2, 1995, described their rage as teens.
As she spoke, Bryan and David hung their heads and cried. Valerie also wept as she talked about finding Eric in his bed. Valerie is Dennis Freeman's sister.
She testified she used to live with the family until she had an argument with David over the way he was treating Erik. She says afterward, Dennis told her she should move out because he was afraid for her life. Valerie says Erik was also afraid of his older brothers.
She says one hot summer day she came over and found Erik in the garage tied to a chair.
When asked about the possibility of the brothers spending the rest of their lives in jail, Valerie Freeman said, "I don't know how they could do it, so no it doesn't bother me."
Their aunt Sandra Lettich says it took eight years for her to be able to forgive Bryan and David. She says in 2003 Bryan asked the family to help him return to the Jehovah's Witness faith. Lettich says the family started visiting Bryan, helping him with Bible study.
She says during one of many visits, Bryan told her he was sorry for what he did, and he wished he could change it. Lettich says soon afterward she started writing to David.
She says he also expressed deep remorse and a desire for his family's forgiveness. Lettich testified that over the years she has seen a remarkable change in both men.
Lettich's sister Linda Solivan also testified about the Freemans' personal growth and return to faith, saying they deserve redemption.
During cross examination, First Assistant District Attorney Erik Dowdle questioned the Freemans' return to faith, remarking that no one knows scripture better than the devil.
Mental health experts who evaluated the brothers shortly after the crime until just recently were divided on the brothers' rehabilitation.
Psychiatrist John O'Brien testified he evaluated Bryan Freeman several times since the murder.
O'Brien says in 1995, Bryan showed little empathy for his parents and deflected responsibility. O'Brien testified that in a 2018 evaluation he felt Bryan minimized documented threats on his parents' lives and his responsibility in the killings.
O'Brien opined that Bryan regretted the murders because of the negative impact they had on him.
Bryan's attorney Karl Schwartz pushed back against that appraisal, saying Bryan has been on record with several mental health experts taking full responsibility for his actions, saying that if he had not stabbed his mother, the other killings may not have happened.
O'Brien also testified about David Freeman, commenting that during a 2018 evaluation David became angry. O'Brien testified David still harbors a significant amount of anger and that both brothers have neglected to take advantage of individual counseling, instead choosing group therapy.
Psychologist Frank Datillio says when he first met David Freeman, he had a budding anti-social disorder. But then in 2009, Dattilio says David started to change.
"He really started to reflect on his life," said Dattilio. "He didn't want to be a hateful person."
Dattilio says David went from a primitive "block of ice" to someone with introspection. Dattilio said that during one evaluation, David broke down when talking about his parents, saying, "My parents were good people.'"
By 2018, Dattilio says he "was awestruck by the contrast" from 1995.
Psychiatrist Susan Rushing says repeated sexual abuse that went untreated was detrimental to Bryan Freeman's development.
According to records shared in court, in 1992, Brenda Freeman told a rehab counselor the abuse happened when Bryan was 6 years old, and that Dennis Freeman did not want to pursue treatment.
Brenda Freeman also reported Bryan became suicidal at 8 years old and started using alcohol shortly afterward.
The court heard testimony that in the years that followed, Bryan and David were admitted to numerous rehab facilities for substance abuse and violence.
Rushing testified that, shortly before the murders, Bryan was involuntarily committed and was medicated with an anti-psychotic called Navane, used to chemically restrain people who are not schizophrenic.
She says when he was released, he was taken off it and sent back to an environment where he was able to resume taking drugs and alcohol, and hanging around violent influences.
Dr. James Garbarino testified the juvenile mind isn't fully formed until the age of 25. Garbarino suggested juvenile killers should spend at least 20 years in jail, 10 years for their minds to mature and 10 to rehabilitate.
Garbarino said Bryan is an upper echelon candidate for release.
Retired Detective Joseph Vasquez was the lead investigator on the 1995 murder case. He showed the court pictures of the crime scene.
Earlier when the crime scene video was shown, the Freemans chose to leave the courtroom.
As Vasquez went through each picture, describing the grisly details, the Freemans hung their heads and cried.
Vasquez says of the two brothers, David was more truthful and cooperative in the initial investigation. Vasquez says Bryan's story was inconsistent and said of the two brothers, David is likely more deserving of clemency.
But the court also heard from those who believe Bryan has redeemed himself.
Erik Stracco, a prison counselor, described how Bryan helps inmates with special needs.
Prison pastor Aaron Duncan told the court the Bryan he knows has respect for his fellow inmates, and Unit Manager Jill Erin Fisher talked about Bryan's patience and care in a dog training program.
Several members of the Jehovah's Witness faith also spoke on Bryan's behalf.
Martin Francken testified he met Bryan through another member who was ministering to him in prison. Franken says he remembered being horrified when he heard about the murders.
He says it was compounded when he learned the teens were Jehovah Witnesses who turned to Nazism.
"Jehovah's Witnesses were persecuted by the Nazis and put in camps," said Francken.
Francken says he didn't dwell on Bryan's crime, instead choosing to focus on the Bible. He says he has grown to become friends with Bryan, corresponding with him frequently. Francken is hopeful about Bryan being released.
"I hope that it happens for him some day," said Francken. "I would like to see how he would grow and contribute."
Witness William Connelly echoed Francken's words, saying Bryan proved his faith and became the first person to be baptized in his Bible group. Connelly says Bryan has spoken about seeing his family again in heaven.
Toward the end of the week-long hearing there was a technical glitch with the computer system, forcing a brief break. Judge Doug Reichley took the opportunity to come down from the bench and speak individually with David and Bryan.
Reichley asked David about his hobbies in prison, with David replying that he likes to read.
The judge followed up with a question about prison food. David expressed his preference for the food at SCI Mahanoy over the Lehigh County Jail.
Bryan wore a tan suit for most of the hearings. Reichley jokingly asked him if he was going to get it dry cleaned or hand wash it for the re-sentencing hearing next week.
Bryan's answer couldn't be heard by others in the courtroom, but he responded with a laugh and a smile.
Montclaire University did a study of 269 Philadelphia juvenile lifers impacted by the Supreme Court ruling for re-sentencing hearings just like those the Freemans are going through now.
The study says 174 of them were released, with a recidivism rate of roughly 1%.
First Assistant District Attorney Erik Dowdle says even one death due to a release is too much, saying society would be safer if the Freemans remain in prison.
The Freemans will learn their fate Wednesday morning.
Bryan's attorney says Bryan will speak on his behalf. David submitted a letter to the court.
Only one of them was released.'
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does anyone remember dennis and brenda freeman?.
it was in 1967 when i met dennis.
my job in the bethel factory allowed me to move around and work with many different people.
A psychiatrist on Thursday spent nearly five hours on the witness stand in Lehigh County Court recounting his 2018 evaluation of Bryan Freeman — an assessment that led him to believe the man who helped slaughter his parents and little brother 29 years ago isn’t ready to be freed.
Dr. John O’Brien has served as an expert witness for the prosecution in this week’s resentencing hearing for Freeman and his brother David, who were sentenced to life in prison without parole after the Feb. 26, 1995, massacre in their Salisbury Township home.
Along with their cousin, Nelson “Ben” Birdwell III, the brothers stabbed and beat to death their mother and father, Brenda and Dennis, and 11-year-old brother Erik. They fled to Michigan, where they were captured three days later at the home of man they knew through the neo-Nazi skinhead movement they had embraced.
The brothers were juveniles at the time of the crime — Bryan was 17 and David 16 — so they became eligible for resentencing in the wake of federal and state court rulings holding it unconstitutional to impose a life-without-parole sentence on minors.
Birdwell was 18 at the time, so his life-without-parole sentence stands.
Judge Douglas Reichley is presiding at the hearing. The decision whether to reduce the sentences or leave them in place is solely his to make, based on his sense of whether the brothers have been reformed, as their lawyers claim, or still harbor a potential for the kind of violence they unleashed in their home.
O’Brien testified Monday about his evaluation of David Freeman, and some of the concerns he raised then he also applied to Bryan. He said both brothers have tended to minimize their culpability for the killings by omitting facts or shifting blame.
Bryan, he said, “talks the remorse talk, but when you question him specifically, he continues to distance himself.” He claimed not to remember making well-documented threats against his family and said the massacre could have been prevented had he and his brother been allowed to move out of the house and had avoided Birdwell.
He also claimed a morbid scrapbook called the “Manson notebook” — dozens of newspaper clippings about family murders, including cases of children murdering their parents — belonged to David, though it was found in Bryan’s room.
While acknowledging Bryan has clearly made progress, “I don’t find credibility to his representation that he is fully rehabilitated,” O’Brien said.
In March Bryan, who is incarcerated at the state prison in Coaldale, was subject to a disciplinary action after authorities discovered he was padding the accounts of a prison charity he helped to run.
He told officials he could “fix it and make it right,” O’Brien said, suggesting he wanted to keep the incident off the record so it wouldn’t affect his resentencing bid.
“It’s indicative of a tendency to minimize and avoid responsibility,” O’Brien said. “That’s a concern regarding parole and release from custody.”
Bryan’s lawyer, Karl Schwartz, noted that the disciplinary action was the first taken against his client in 22 years. In virtually all aspects of prison life, Bryan has been exemplary, Schwartz said.
Character witness Eric Stracco, the commutation and clemency supervisor for the Department of Corrections, spent years at Coaldale as director of its library program and as a corrections counselor.
In the first role, he employed Bryan for about two years. In the second, he counseled him for at least three years.
“He was an exceptional worker,” Stracco said. “He seemed to have an innate work ethic that was present without being told what to do.”
He also had a gentle demeanor as he worked with other inmates, helping them navigate the library system.
“I never saw him lose his temper,” Stracco said. “I can’t recollect him ever using profanity. In state prison, profanity is how everyone talks.”
Schwartz asked Stracco if he would have any concerns about Bryan regaining his freedom.
“I would not. I believe he has changed,” Stracco said. “He exemplified evidence of change from the time he entered prison until now, and that exemplification warrants consideration for his eventual release under supervision.”
Against these assurances that Bryan is a changed man, First Assistant District Attorney Eric Dowdle and assistant prosecutor Gregory Englert sought to remind the court of the sheer savagery of the crimes.
They called former state police criminal investigator Joseph Vazquez to the stand — he was one of the primary investigators of the case — and had him graphically describe a series of crime scene photos depicting the victims.
On Monday the brothers chose to stay in their holding cells when a video of the crime scene was played in the courtroom. During Vazquez’s gruesome recitation, however, they remained at the defense tables, lowering their heads.
Bryan wept and, with his chin on his folded hands, appeared to be praying.
Vazquez recounted how investigators constructed a timeline of the killings through interviews with Bryan and David, who were prompted to talk after Birdwell spoke to media in Michigan and blamed everything on the brothers.
Vazquez said he believed David to be far more honest about the events than Bryan.
“I’m torn,” he said. “Maybe give David a break, but not Bryan.”
The hearing continues Friday.
Morning Call reporter Daniel Patrick Sheehan can be reached at 610-820-6598 or [email protected].'
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